Four times of the eye "MEET" is independent from the "IREMONYA DESIGN LABO" of Article Takakura,
And design office, called "Masaki Tokuda Design." In the town Takeya Horikawa in Kyoto on May 16, 2009, "in the same building as the Songbird DESIGN STORE. "
Has been to meet with Mr. Masaki Tokuda began SHOP and cafes that.

Was the story of "Kyoto" and "design", with an acid such Tokuda.

Tokuda: suddenly, the story goes Do not feel the start of?
I thought that was a solid configuration or softening, and. . .

Sano: I'm sorry, I feel not. . . (Laughs)
Always, we talk while thinking on the fly.

So thank you.
Is, or let's talk to any. Lol

Silence. . . (Laughs two people)

At first only a little: Sano.
A section called "MEET" of this or that theme Refsign in their convention is now been decided,

"First-mail interview if you can not"
"To talk to some extent, from the relationship turned to talk" after,

Two points that is decided.

This is it I will be the originator of the information we have proposed using the medium of the "Internet" for never met a lot of people have gotten to see the site also says Tokuda, too.

: Yes Tokuda.

Sano: So, are you want to conduct a conversation in relation to "real" only in the relationship between two people to talk.

I think that there "is not felt, and only not afford it, things".

: I see Tokuda. All right.

When interviewed for the first time opponent of Mr. Tokuda of you does not it? Matsukura Come to think of it: Sano?

: Yeah Tokuda. I think that it was also the first interview you Matsukura.
Moment that people recognized by the interview team with people who have formed a circle outside, tightening feeling was at that time, if you look at the outside? And I still do it at the appointed time.

What is the engine: Sano? Is incredible.
I will be feeling it tightening.
What If you do not properly.

: Yeah Tokuda.
But experience was very good.

Mon is a reason I guess I got used to know that thanks to Mr. Tokuda: Sano!
Thanks to you Matsukura.
(Tokuda and Mr. Sano Meet opportunity. You gave me bring together Matsukura)

There! I want to hear it came out. Do not What furniture was produced for the first time Mr. Tokuda laughs?

What is work: Tokuda?

I'll do anything even if it is not working: No, Sano.

What is the shelf I made ​​when the student: Tokuda.

What is the challenge: Sano?

Tokuda: No, shelf for your own use at work that you have the real challenge is not.
Design is Morokopi of,,, "Eames" actually. Lol

I learned the importance of (copy) of Manet at that time.

: No, Sano! That's it really is so. You know.
Sometimes I still say that students, too.
Anyway, if you try to copy anything without thinking! And.
Instead is a copy, of 100%.
It is very difficult I is not 100% copy unexpectedly and try the demo.
Such as "balance of design," Yara "attentive between the lines of character" by trying to copy you'll see the demo.
Design around the time of anxious students was 100% copied one and all, too. Lol

What is its shelf copies from the material?
Or just design?

Tokuda: The material is the same thing does not truly put into the hand, we used the wood has fallen to woodwork room. At that time it was a longing for it.
Was not able to see and touch the spot "Eames" yet because it was not like now also been recognized yet. I was in Tokyo is not just a little bit. But but that's about it.
I went to production so while looking at the magazine clippings.
Shelf that is actually used in the house even now.

(Here is the spot)

O: Sano?
It is incredible.
It is the work of the origin of Mr. Tokuda of "manufacturing".

Tokuda: But, going to the Morokopi is not at all similar. . .
I also make everything sweet is not so at the time had no knowledge of the furniture. . .

You can see that: Sano.
It is what I "difference" we do not like that color part.

: Yeah Tokuda.
Try to copy, or was the greatness of the work,
It is amazing that you can experience that again ride a commercial basis, to be studied.

I think that really as: Sano.
By performing the act, it is also a shortcut that you can understand the feelings of the creator.

I thought it is not to make your own furniture, thanks to this work and try to quit: Tokuda.

: What Sano! Too early or not? I'll second is the work of a smile from. . .

It is that Producer: Tokuda.

Was: Sano! I see. I That's it.
Tokuda's production in terms of the current works by yourself I is not been Mon Come to think of it.

It is the only furniture was produced in their own hands ever: So Tokuda.
Is, I was aware at that time.
That it's near the bottom is "quality" of the make with their own hands. . .
Until then, I was think how handy that your fine.
I was thinking of high quality and can be carried all the journey of their own so.

To embody it yourself is the best image of yourself that is! I was thought.

Level model was also talk of it but.
Well Nde was a student. Was naive. Lol

: I see Sano.
The reason is that it works the first care-one that thought the demo,
It is also enviable experience from the perspective that the design.

It is lucky I: Tokuda.
However, I was regretted that it was not successful "SHOULD too love you" really Among his furniture that was produced.

: I see Sano.
It is a good story this is.

Try to mimic the work has been too much respect among his love while trying to enter the creative world. It is, it is likely to be common sense than copying.
May be that getting a job thanks to another of its actions and poor. . . It is we.

It is: Tokuda.
Fondness for Eames is not overwhelming in me.
At that time in college or Scandinavian furniture is popular, for example Wegner.
I vector of everyone I was facing in the direction of formative beauty.
University of the Arts so tentatively.

Had been a professor at the University of affirmation is not a "construction" include the Eames house also in the classroom.
Or just a prefab. And. . .

I am not drawn to the work of Eames mass production, to a kind of "chill" of just thinking.

Other world of design, for example, product design graphic design and furniture other than the Euro it is so I like, I like the world of furniture is found in the United States. I say that makes sense, or rather is not nostalgic. . .

Sano: Mr. Tokuda, Eames, huh? Really exceptional. . . Eames to smile when I met you?

Tokuda end: junior high school, I start What about a high school student.
I is not got the book Eames.
At that time, as a "design book" normally, this is of Warhol as well as others.

And, I was seen in the library of the University of the Eames collection of works by a university for the first time at the time of the year.
Is the feeling of "this! This and" I mean was impressed at that time.

: I see Sano.
Image at that time in the profession right now Do you had?

I did not hate: Tokuda.
I was in art college and I want to go since I was small but good at painting.

Or along: Sano! It is a prodigy Mon. (I was little, it seems had been told around too good to be painting. This is more of a classmate to meet another day, but the pictures were very good at that laughs. Mr. Tokuda was confirmed) smile

I thought that the workers will be from the old days I would not with: Tokuda. Of course, the occupation of workers has also salaryman respect because of parents. I was thinking from childhood - and I want to be - but I would not be a designer.

Do you Mr. Sano was it? Do you mind was become a designer?

~ I do: Sano.
I guess I did not eager to become a designer in the original.
I was thinking of something vague situation will only, and you want to be "manufacturing" to "create" a job. Lol

Tokuda: Is it feels like it was a house?

: No, Sano.
It was also my home office workers.

However, talk about embarrassing, guts "negative home" there is no common good may have been the past puberty. . . Want to work with different industries smile.

Do you mean that I bring together quite painfully I know it is now believed to have just what job. It's not cool at all but just say that designer. It is often said that I also have friends to talk and work around rather as "harsh and I".

I think I'll root is and will work together, but what job What.
Have set to work for someone eventually. I do not own in the standard.

I I: Is that so Tokuda.
I have it in the presence of "rules" or more is a "society" If you want to trade.
Also from such

I Mon is "useless and there is no ability to communicate and designers, and more social."

Yeah, yeah: Sano. It is so we.
Talk of "IREMONYA DESIGN LABO" on the speaking career of Mr. Tokuda is it I can not be avoided.

: Yes, Tokuda.
It accounts for most of my career to configure so now I "IREMONYA DESIGN LABO".

I'll is "fiber box" is still synonymous with products of Speaking "IREMONYA DESIGN LABO": Sano.
It has been the design of the cute face of the fiber box that says Tokuda What is not?

: Yes, Tokuda.

Sano: Why did you choose one design to eye "IREMONYA DESIGN LABO" What is the fiber in the box?

: Yes Tokuda. Tesshu box is made for them.
I saw it in the shop started to sell around the reaction was also good.

It is not sold then this is fine.
It is the first one it is.

Feelings go with this route thanks to the "Tesshu box" I had this lump.

: I see Sano.

Tokuda: from here, so there was also some feeling that is not bad and not cool itself below with shops to sell the fiber, we will continue to design production items, goods, and furniture.

Is it not become a way which product: Sano?

This item is an item called "LS-3": Tokuda.

I remember this product, too Ah: Sano.
There was a time period you want. Lol

It is "CHABU-DAI": And Tokuda!

: I see Sano.
During this period "IREMONYA DESIGN LABO" Because he is now I have been updated product mix at a time is really going rapidly! I was surprised.

: Yes, Tokuda.
And I think it is time to produce various commodities were the most ever at this time.

I've heard in various places and I also said that the change in "IREMONYA DESIGN LABO" Thanks. . . Also a good story, even bad news. Lol

Sano: So when the timing of such change is the gate Well I'll.
Did we go to announce new products steadily since then.
May be seen by a variety of media, too many times.

I'd like to hear,
During his tenure at retirement when they are most of the design does not it? Had been working on Mr. Tokuda to "IREMONYA DESIGN LABO"?
Do you mean that it is not some form product also several points that have been seen also in "SONGBIRD DESIGN STORE." And this shop?

Tokuda: Originally, I was going to put "IREMONYA DESIGN LABO" all items of the time of independence.

That in the future "IREMONYA DESIGN LABO" and from then president and determination to retire,
And I is not had a lot of opportunity to talk and that of "SONGBIRD DESIGN STORE.".

Although I heard from the president at that time, is not apparently wanted to "shop of fiber box" since before I originally joining.

For example: Sano? !

Tokuda: I do not know about it, but also new products of fiber box is from joining, has been selling products other than make it a lot.

And think now, because it was me that beat us president
It is I've been let in love for eight years.

Yeah, yeah: Sano. I see.
It is a great president.

: Yes, Tokuda.
Considering now, the situation was very grateful.
Many thanks.

Sano: So, now the form of,
In other words, "SONGBIRD DESIGN STORE." Is a variety of furniture and miscellaneous goods.
To "shop of fiber box" "IREMONYA DESIGN LABO" And,
You are you getting a good feel and flow of the two stores.

That's right: Tokuda.

Do not feel it "in order to increase the brand power of IREMONYA, by creating a variety of design products, the original at the same time" Blur had made, the part called "store of the protagonist: Fiber Sano.

I do not know if this might be true: Tokuda. . . Bitter smile

Is the story of, "SONGBIRD DESIGN STORE.": Sano
I heard that was greater willingness to have a "cafe" when are independent according to the story I heard at the time of the opening.

: Yes Tokuda.
Now I wanted to become very own form.
As the store, I was able Among my feeling perfectly fine.
It is no joke was also the mid-He had been a long time and you want to a cafe. Actually. . . Lol

Kurata but they do together has worked hard my own experience of eating, drinking but I do not.
Still feel that is just getting started as a cafe Nde but, well. Lol

Sano: It is also a cafe so that you have not until now that, or was that - I was good to try as an independent shop?

Tokuda: Again, it is that opportunity to meet people and dramatically increased when compared with the previous. Then, by itself became a sign, it is now seriously consider the implications for the encounter of one by one. Before that, though not, was irresponsible.

Carrying a minute never felt pressure, have led to it as motivation, we have very rich.

What are you thinking, and Mr. Tokuda We would like to shop What the future: Sano?

~ I do: Tokuda.
I want to most fashionable shops in Kyoto. Lol

Was: Sano!
Is in struggle want to make the most stylish office in Kyoto "Refsign" But I also really pretty. I Mon I have Mr. Tokuda and two of the sides that idea pretty smile. . . Lol

I'd like to hear this: Tokuda
Do you know where Mr. Sano What store similar to "SONGBIRD DESIGN STORE." In Kyoto?

~ I do: Sano. It is not we.
I think that I do, I do not like about it is people in Kyoto What What Sud Being where the softening is not so but also of the office? You understand? ?

You know ~ A: Tokuda.

"And go with it: But Sano Efish "is and we'll also Shutsu.
Kyoto is in many ways, I'll still is exceptional.
"Mr. Shin Nishibori and calmly think of apple Pretty impressive do not know about working in often. "

After, I think I was with a great cafe's cafe lately or Marble.
Softening Mr. Nagai feel like a lump of the sense of will. Lol

("From here D & DEPARTMENT "," TRUCK FURNITURE "," Graf "," BLUEMARK . I talked variety of shops and my favorite of the vector, such as Mr. Tokuda ", about the design studio)

But so too is, fine, we'll also aware of the nature of the locality that Mr. Tokuda Kyoto: But Sano.

: Yes Tokuda.
You are aware Kyoto. . .
Karaniwa do is like a small child, and still want to be the best in Kyoto.
I think I have something I think, after, and go on to some extent at the most when you hear in Kyoto.

Was: Sano! You know it.
Although I worked in Tokyo, Osaka and I also
I think from now those feelings, they are also in Kyoto.

~ I'll say it is the Kyoto
- "Oh Refsign "also" Songbird DESIGN STORE. we would like in a good condition also. " . .

It is sudden: Tokuda. Yes but I'll smile. . . .

People willing to say and has seen blog Refsign, how you come to the store to see the site is very large but it is.

I: Really Sano!
It is really happy.

I wanted to I can make the site instead of the site to see the site once, not look now, bringing you his leg again and again in the article is that you could write something before.
I like this story is the most happy, it also increases the tension.
I've heard and will be published in the magazine is also now a variety of "SONGBIRD DESIGN STORE.".

: Yeah Tokuda.
Once I am happy to have me play a lot better.
You think it will change to feel good also shop from there.

It is no good neighbors to each other, if you do not work hard from now on: Sano. . . . Lol Thank you for this story.

Ieie: Tokuda.
Thank you, too.

And "SONGBIRD DESIGN STORE." What is it?

Takeya was opened in the town of Kyoto Horikawa on May 16, 2009, furniture, selling goods, building a cafe and eventful. Mr. Tokuda is also currently part-time lecturer at Kyoto University of Art and Design.

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